The subject line is a quote of Alberta Premier Jason Kenney taken from an article in the Calgary Herald, the full story is available here:
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/braid-kenney-begins-to-normalize-covid-19-as-a-risk-mainly-to-the-elderly-almost-zero-danger-to-the-young/wcm/264d4e97-bd0e-42c8-8566-be9fcf69f8e7/?fbclid=IwAR2GtoYJwiE7FcgPFhDJe5x8wgKj3XDcaTO_t5X0_7f67Fbud0edr96ENi4
Thursday, May 28, 2020
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What a profoundly stupid statement. As if you can calculate death rates from a pandemic that may not even be halfway through the first wave. That's the worst kind of sophistry.
Did you see the latest from Wisconsin, Gordie? Two weeks ago Republican legislators succeeded in getting a court to lift the Democratic governor's lockdown order. Two weeks later and Covid is back at infection rates higher than ever. They're setting records, reaping what they quite deliberately sowed.
State officials today announced they were cancelling the 2020 State Fair, the first time since 1945.
The Guardian has posted photos of Brits flocking to beaches in Bournemouth, Brighton and Southend - cheek on jowl. Toronto meanwhile is in the throes of a heatwave. Tick-tock, tick-tock.
Gordie, I read the article and then ventured into the comments it elicited. Wowser! It doesn't sound like the good people of Alberta are buying Kenney's horseshit. BTW, the death rate for those under 60 isn't 0.0006 per cent. It's 0.6 per cent. 0.6 percent today. Next week it'll be higher. By the end of summer even higher yet. By the end of the 2nd wave, who knows? The more people it chews up, the higher that number goes.
And then there's the survivors. I realize this is purely anecdotal but my daughter had a telephone consult with her rheumatologist. The doctor just returned to practice. Her husband, an ER doctor, got the virus when it was just setting in and before PPE was generally available. He brought it home. She got it. So did their two children. She wound up in the ICU but they saved her. However her lungs and heart were damaged - permanently damaged. She has trouble breathing. Exertion for this mother of two young kids is out of the question. It will take years before they have time and resources to assess how this has shortened her life.
People like Kenney who deliberately dismiss this as influenza are fiends.
.oo6%. Well nothing to worry about, eh Gordie? Do you live in Alberta where only 143 have croaked so the actual rate is .0003%? Quoting a Con on Progressive bloggers is always good for a laugh. Try working out your Ontario death rate or Quebec's, and better yet get yourself on a Con blog aggregator instead of here. Then you can chat with idiots just like yourself in a huge echo chamber.
Son, you're a damn fool. And a troll to boot.
BM
I was merely posting a link to a mainstream news article. So now I'm a troll again, on my very own blog BM?
I live in Eastern Ontario thankfully, an area less affected by Covid than more densely populated parts of Canada. I fact I would very much like to see how many flu cases we have during a typical influenza season because I wouldn't be surprised if in my area....I wouldn't be surprised to find out flu typically has more cases. Again, that's here in a sparsely populated area.
I don't know where Kenney got the .006 figure, as Disaffected Lib has commented, perhaps he meant .6, or .06. The CDC is reportedly now estimating a mortality rate of .4% I'll link the NBC news story to that at the end.
There are infectious disease experts now saying that, for younger people, that driving is more dangerous than Covid-19. Here are the bona fides of the doctors expressing this view:
-Dr. Neil Rau - infectious diseases specialist and medical microbiologist in and an assistant professor at the University of Toronto.
-Dr. Susan Richardson - a retired infectious diseases physician and medical microbiologist and professor emerita at the University of Toronto.
-Dr. Martha Fulford is an associate professor at McMaster University and an infectious diseases physician at Hamilton Health Sciences.
-Dr. Dominik Mertz is an associate professor at McMaster University and an infectious diseases physician and hospital epidemiologist at Hamilton Health Sciences.
Now....you don't have to agree with these Doctors. Science isn't about vote or consensus, its about data and evidence. And its normal within the scientific community for two doctors from the same discipline to look at the same data and then draw different conclusions....it happens all the time.
Only fascists try to shut down debate and insist that there is only one right point of view.
And if that isn't enough, here's an NBC article that has the CDC estimating the mortality rate to be just 0.4%....here's the link:
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/data-cdc-estimates-covid-19-mortality-rate/275-fc43f37f-6764-45e3-b615-123459f0082b?fbclid=IwAR2Tvgc3UXT2lBGdceNZD_zohw7oYnzyUNqN2iVXGdnW9SXg76cIx5fAUf4
Gordie, it's "my four doctors trump your legions of doctors". Hardly a convincing argument. And, as we've been told since the onset of Covid-19, it ain't over until the fat lady is in the morgue. The statistics looked pretty benign when the first wave of the Spanish Flu passed in the summer of 1918. People relaxed, went back to business as usual. Then, as autumn neared they were hit with the real killer, the second wave.
So, to ground an argument on statistics when we're not through the first wave and, as we saw in Wisconsin's Covid relapse, could remain in this wave for some time, is really disingenuous. Recent hordes flooding into the parks and beaches of Britain, Canada and the US, show that there are a lot of us not in this to win. No one qualifies those stats with two critical words - "so far."
I know you don't find this argument compelling. I'd like to know why.
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